Wednesday, June 30, 2004

Frum Sex

It's time for frum people to break the silence and talk about sex. Is anyone frustrated by the nida laws? Is anyone finding it difficult to follow every precept? Let's share our thoughts and support one another through open, non-judgmental dialog.
Talmud613 writes on Frum Sex: "This reform chick keeps talking with me. It is very funny to hear her talk about keeping holidays but not shabbos. We talk on the phone and IM. last chat I typed Orthodox Booty call. I think that is so clever! I told her that besides, I am really good in bed, and she said she is too. Last night on the phone she asked if I know anything more shocking. So I mentioned Taharat Mishpocha and she wasn't shocked but it was ironic when I pointed out needing permission to have sex."
Folks, before you complain, I want you to know that I am even more appalled by this Yahoo group than you are, and I only am posting an excerpt of it so that the authorities can better control things.
No writes: I just want to comment on how impressed I am at the ability of some of you guys/girls to roll off the 'mareh mekomos' for some of these issues. They sure didn't teach me any of this stuff during my 8 years in yeshiva. Maybe its time for a sefer! I can just see it now..."Frumsex Al HaTorah"
Professional man writes: "What do you guys think of a frum person benefitting from a porno business (e.g. website) (even as an investor), or for that matter another "adult" business such as a strip joint? Is there any legitimate business/ "its' just for parnassa" justification, or is it completely forbidden because of its inherent nature?"
Gita writes: As Machshava Levatala put it so well, it is important to educate children about sexuality just as its important to teach them safety. I dont need to be the one to add to their masturbation guilt and I dont tell them I condone it..I tell them (as a mother but also a professional involved in the field) that it happens to be a normal part of adolescent develpment.
Your comment that "working on the assumption that the lady doesn't know the chemer hainyan" is quite condenscending. This does happen to have a background in learning. In fact, I would recommend Rav Sherlo's latest book on shealot vetshuvot called "Rishut Hayachid" where he discusses these issues candidly and sensitively. He recommends practical methods to young men to help avoid obsessing about these things but also pointed out that averot have to be put into perspective. The neviim gave tocheha about shmirat shabbat, idol worship and being nice to your fellow man...not masturbation. Ironprik I totally agree with you...boys should feel free to discuss these things with their rabanim and lol on your nic comment Talmud 613...its sad that you think being frum is about condemning your grandfather to hell for not being shomer mitzvot. Maybe he was very machmir in the laws of man and man. Dont forget in America 60 years ago keeping shabbat and getting a yeshiva education couldnt be taken for granted as today.
Luke says: Could someone please translate some of these terms above? What's masturbation?